07:29:53 *** FRIEND 1 ()
(BN) Americans in Poll Want Deficit Cut With Entitlements Secured
… looks like class warfare.
07:30:47 ME
you don't think outsourcing all manufacturing jobs was class war?
you don't think the bush tax cuts were class war??
you don’t think 40% of gdp in finance was class war?
you don’t think quantitative easing is class war?
jeez, dude
how about 100% regulatory captured government?
not a form of class war?
how about finance sector monetizing the greenspan/bernanke put?
not class war?
you ever price up a long dated at-the-money option??
come on man
TARP wasn’t class war?
not paying out a peace dividend wasn’t a form of class war??
07:37:34 FRIEND 1 : I am not a fan of Bush, but mistakes were made by both sides of Congress and the regulators. It is not about looking back, but forward. You can argue it is not fair, but who is going to pay for all the entitlements? There are not enough rich people.
07:37:47 ME : its not about looking back??
fraud can’t be prosecuted?
war crimes can’t be prosecuted?
can i do anything i want and when the police come, I can just say "its not about looking back???"
LOL
how can you situate any development in the NARRATIVE OF REALITY
WITHOUT LOOKING BACK??
THE TRADE AGREEMENTS ARE CLASS WAR
THE HEALTH CARE LAW IS CLASS WAR
07:39:23 FRIEND 1 : you are not going to raise the revenue needed. I am not
against punishing the guilty, but believe that the issue is about fiscal responsibility. Public sector unions own the politicians, and the tax payer is getting screwed
07:39:32 ME : STOP
BANKS OWN THE POLITICIANS
the stated intention of TARP was to get lending going again
how'd that go?
oh, didn’t happen
huh
crazy
Quantitative Easing was supposed to add jobs
HOW'D that go again?
huh
what a joke
07:41:10 FRIEND 1 : most has been paid back, and the financial system is functioning, albeit less than desired.
07:41:16 ME : how about instead of printing up more money to give to banks
you actually get it to the people?
there is 20% real unemployment in this country!
you want to give more money to the PIMCOs and Goldmans of the world?
incredible
the immorality is staggering
THE POINT PEOPLE ARE MAKING IS THE GOVERNMENT TAKES THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER"S MONEY AND GIVES IT TO CORRUPT SPECIAL INTERESTS
Halliburton in no-bid contracts and full engagement in the war theatre
Goldman Sachs in paying them out 100% on their private contracts
come on dude
its laughable that the gov't spends the money on the people
it is just not a credible assertion
surprised you buy into that propaganda
buying all the naked body scanners from MICHAEL CHERTOFF's company??
incredible
cutting taxes on the rich and large corporations, necessitating the issuance of bonds to the creditor class... who are the rich
to pay for the comfort of the establishment
and the extension of the empire in far flung locales
yeah
that’s all for the little guy
right
the little guy benefits from exxon getting oil servicing contracts in iraq
right
sure
what a total effing joke
what do you believe in, dude?
what are you willing to stand up for?
where is your line in the sand?
07:51:55 FRIEND 1 : my initial comment was an observation on the need to cut the deficit, without anyone wanting to share in the pain (rich or poor).
07:52:25 ME : and my point is there ALREADY has been alot of pain, born by the poor exclusively
but i guess if you're not willing to look back, then maybe you don’t know that
My Line in the sand moment came when I graduated from highschool with a "regents diploma" that was supposed to come with a thousand dollar a semester scholarship from the state of New York. The carrot was dangled for me to be a good student in highschool and then the state would chip in a few bucks to help me buy some books for college. The school got its good metrics for me graduating, but when it came time to pay up, there was a budget freeze and no money went to me. I learned something that day. The most important thing i ever learned from highschool. I learned that the only way to succeed in this muckraking hell hole of political corruption and greed is to succeed in spite of the government. CEOs of banks & utilities have taken this lesson to heart and now control our economy. There is no oversight, no accountability, no end to the unbridled greed, and no more reason for the bankers to obfuscate these facts. We have sold what little self-respect equity we had in this great experimental republic of the USA for far too low of a price and now it is proven that we are helpless to regain any modicum of living standard for ourselves or our children.
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